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- news-  news-786@hotmail.com    8/20/04

"I am woundering why this has to happen to us the people that try to help out alot of people that need it like china and ect."


- Matthew Masters  Maddawg20bham@yahoo.com , Bellingham Washington USA   6/19/04

"Someone wrote this on the other side of the fence (the in the without sanctuary - forum)
From before the days of Malthus, Darwin, Spencer and the like, there existed some Europeans groping with the mishapen doctrines of superiority. These deformed ideas grew into the concepts of Eugenics and all out Genocide. Today every major country has a laboratory dedicated to Biological warfare and genetic research. The purpose of all this intellectual Madness is murder. The US government supports private corporations with Funding to further such research. A barometer of corporate success is to watch the "Health" reports coming out of Africa, particularly the Congo region, of new and previously unknown Killer viruses
recently discovered. The Congo is the biggest testing ground for Biological warfare, and the African is the target. "Population control" is the term used to disguise these ill deeds and to cloak their true identity from the general public. The new lynch mob is comprised of Eugenic oriented doctorates who work as frontline soldiers in the dissemination of lethal medicines and infected green monkeys. They claim their efforts in these regions are humanitarian, but when there is uncovered a sudden outbreak of a new strain of AIDS or Ebola following a recent malaria or polio innoculation these soldiers feign ignorance and deny any connection or complicity. These pictures should not be viewed solely as evidence of human barbarism or insanity, but as a wakeup call to the process of ongoing hate. What these diminished mentalities staring into the camera lens are unaware of is that the Doctrines of Eugenics have placed them high up on the list of undesirables." To improve the Species, they too must be eliminated. These images are a lesson in history; they represent not merely misdeeds of the past, but are harbringers of horrors yet to be manifested."
The "without sanctuary" - forum is a journalE-forum and can be reached over this site."


- molly  lalala , G   3/26/02

"Judith Miller NYT "Germs""


- molly  lalala , G   1/10/02

"Some things have changed Molly. When I see the anger of Laura tho, it makes me afraid too, because I don't want to lose anyone to racist pigs. For every nasty comment made on the other side of the fence, we can see the temptation for some rational thinking, to change sides. I hope, we can all stick together and find something to hang onto with each other..one plus one can multiply so quickly. And I really think, equal for all people, has the edge. To the blind ones, the ones who see a division....shame on them. Damn. "


- Fadra  Fadra    12/4/01

"Power is money, money is power. A war brings both. I agree that this war is fought for loyalty but let's not forget that loyalty to a country and justice is not neccessarily the same thing and that being hit and being destroyed is not the same thing neither.
Could it be that we're both here because we don't know how to help Laura? These a..s at the other side of the fence make me feel so helpless, because I see that nothing changed, nothing at all. I knew it before but it hurts to see it that clearly...
"It was also a reason, to go farther into the countries that we have wanted to for so long, but had no valid excuse to." For which reasons have we wanted to go farther into them? Why didn't we? "


- molly  lalala , G   12/2/01

"War is money. The war in Afgan was in retaliation for our own being hit, and destroyed. It was also to keep the American people united. We could not stand back and let it go, or our own loyalty to the USA would be jeopardized. It was also a reason, to go farther into the countries that we have wanted to for so long, but had no valid excuse to. I don't see where it is about money tho."


- Fadra  Fadra    12/2/01

"I think it's not the worst thing that we didn't see that our own country could be hit. It's much worse that we built these weapons knowing that they are pretty likely to be used to oppress people and to kill innocent. And we accepted this crime as a price for wealth. We didn't even care how many were and still are killed through the waepons that we sold. Nobody counts them and it was always someone elses fault that the died. We don't accept any kind of responsibility for what we did and still are doing.
For some war is just about money, every war, this one too."


- molly  lalala , G   12/2/01

"I think it's not the worst thing that we didn't see that our own country could be hit. It's much worse that we built these weapons knowing that they are pretty likely to be used to oppress people and to kill innocent. And we accepted this crime as a price for wealth. We didn't even care how many were and still are killed through the waepons that we sold. Nobody counts them and it was always someone elses fault that the died. We don't accept any kind of responsibility for what we did and still are doing.
For some war is just about money, every war, this one too."


- molly  lalala , G   12/2/01

"The pull out of the great American depression, was war. The pull out from the recession...was again war. We profit from it, and we pay the price too. By making and selling the weapons, the biological warfare, we keep the economy alive .. But like I said..oh what a price we pay.
And yes Molly..we take liberty and freedom for granted. It takes things like Sept. 11th to wake people up, and not just the people here in the States..but worldwide. We neglected to be aware of the fact that the bioterrorism, that we helped create and sell, could be a possible threat to our country, and every country. Hindsight is always 20/20."


- Fadra  Fadra    12/2/01

"Fadra, all this, the terror, the fear, the suffring, is human. Opression and injustice are just as human as the dream of liberty and peace. Biological weapons are like mines which look like toys or plastic mines (cheep but difficult to ge rid of them again). Everybody talks about how bad and monstrous it is to use them but they are still produced, sold and bought. Who develops and produces these weapons? "We" do. Let's not forget that war itself is an important part of "our" economy...
We don't know how to make the ghosts, that we called, leave again. We didn't care about all these weapons till they hit us...
We're lucky, many people dream of the safety that we live in. Because for them war is the rule and peace only the exception. We should be thankful.
...Don't it always seem to go, you don't know what you've got till it's gone...
We had peace, we had this wonderful gift but we didn't even think of being thankful. We just took it for granted."


- molly  lalala , Germany   11/12/01

"Good thoughts Bob. I also see the threat of bioterrorism becoming a crippler. We walk in fear, keep away from people, watch over our shoulder, run when we feel that we are close. We have lost our touch with humanity, with the Aids epidemic, because we don't want to get too close, in cas....will this happen now? Will we begin to eventually live in our own shelter, self contained world to prevent it from entering our own lives? It might be the worst part of any disease..."


- Fadra  Fadra    10/25/01

"Biochemicals have been used, and will be used in the future. The method of spreading them is very simple, and very fast

A test was carried out in the 50's using the London Underground, to test how fast something would pass around the system. I can't remember what was used, a cold virus I think, but the Goverment were shocked to see just how fast it spread, obviously this wasn't realeased to the public for over 25 years

No medical system could handle the number of casulaties, if somebody was serious enough and determined enough to use any number of the chemical or biological virui that have been collected, altered and improved oon by all Goverments around the world

If the number of people injured by such a system rose over a set number of casulaties, then that system inplace would collapse

If people are dead, then they are not going to need help, but an injured person needs more care, people and facilities, each one over that set limit brings the system closer to total collapse and confusion

Thats why weapons have been invented and used to injure, not kill. If a person is killed on the battle field, nobody can help them, but if they are injured, it takes a minimum of 2 more people to help them
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- Bob  fredjones2001@hotmail.com , UK   10/21/01

"Bioterrorism is here. If they wanted to be effective, they sould definitely find other sources. Anthrax is a horrible concern, as all the other bioterrorisms that can exist, and probably have for years, altho we labled the deaths as "other". No one thought to check. "


- Fadra  Fadra    10/14/01